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Old 08-21-2017, 12:57 PM   #1739
ThurgreedMarshall
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Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.

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The Ds keep losing and wondering why. You can blame Russia, voter suppression, etc.
You are exhausting. Truly.

I'm not sure anyone is wondering why Trump won at this point. People are weighing the importance of many reasons. And yeah, voter suppression is a big one. Russian bots on social media? I don't know. Racism, sexism, xenophobia, Islamophobia? Sure. You're stuck on the left pushing people away by identifying issues related to race or identity or whatever as dispositive. The fact that you can look at someone who jumps into the arms of a small-minded racist who doesn't know shit because they don't like being called out on their actual racism and blame the person calling them out is sickening.

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But when a critic says, "Hey, here's how your party fucking up," it might do well to listen instead of assuming him an enemy.
What the fuck are you talking about? I am disagreeing with you and telling you why. Is that how you read posts that disagree with you? If so, you have serious problems.

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My liberal friends (it's odd to say this, as I'm socially farther left than most of them) and right friends (odd to sy that too, as I'm economically pretty solidly right) can get pissed I'm not "on the team," and call me a moral relativist, and that's true (I kind of am one). But the points I've made? They're worth considering.
You need to stop telling us about your liberal friends and your right wing friends. We all know that you exaggerate their experiences and sometimes outright make them up to facilitate your arguments. Do you think you're the only person who has friends from both sides? Do you hear anyone else employing this as a strategy to debate anything? Retire it.

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Because I am checked out. My sole interest right now in every debate with a Right or Left person is to find a hole in their argument and explain why they ought to engage the argument in a more circumspect fashion that might actually effect a solution to a problem. That I actually find interesting.
Typical Sebby bullshit.

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