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Old 08-21-2017, 01:06 PM   #11
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Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.

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Unfortunately, she also proved that the politics of this matter more than the truth. What Hillary said was pretty reasonable. It immediately got twisted into a fodder for white grievance. Many more people are familiar with Sebby's version than with what she actually said, and the conventional wisdom is that it was her fault for making a gaffe.
Come on. You are correct. She shouldn't have tried to make a nuanced argument in a world filled with idiots who don't read or listen and who are influenced by sound bites.

But the fact that the right was able to twist what she said into, "If you support Trump, you are deplorable," doesn't mean she was incorrect in what she actually said.

If the only way to win elections is to constantly tip toe around the feelings of white people who can't ever hear any type of criticism or they will be driven into the arms of a sexist, racist, xenophobic brain-dead idiot, then we are truly fucked. Because the only way Democrats are going to win is to actually look at their base and try to increase it instead of trying to capture the vote of hyper-fragile white people. And increasing that base means actually addressing issues that affect the expanded base.

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