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Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
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12-12-2017, 09:54 AM
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sebastian_dangerfield
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Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
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Originally Posted by
Hank Chinaski
Maybe I'm whiffing, but you would certainly get written up for doing that. Are you in a sole shop now? Because you seem way off. Of course some of it is bullshit, but it is baked into today's workplace.
The only time I ever got in trouble:
20 years ago we are doing a seminar to in-house patent counsel. Senior male GP, mid-level male GP, a young female GP, me, as a youngish GP and firm's female marketing director. We are in a meeting prepping for the seminar. Marketing director says "we got two more attorneys signed up!" Senior GP says, "who?" Meaning "what company." Marketing director says "i forget, two women." Senior GP goes, "Oh," and moves on to something else. Now here's a fact about Hank. My practice is built from a single in-house female attorney that I was a kid lawyer with. She bounced from job to job and brought me in at each. As you can imagine once I'm in, people love me so I kept the work after she would move on. But, important point: without this one woman and the work she sent me I would not be able to waste all my work days posting on the internet. I'd have to actually work for senior GP. And everyone knows my practice came from her.
So after senior GP dismisses the news of two women showing up, I say "yeah, who needs chick lawyers." Which everyone, including senior GP, had to recognize was making fun of senior GP's (flower, is that irony?) reaction. Then I stepped out of the room and came back two minutes later. Apparently while I was gone Senior and mid-level GPs started goofing about what female lawyers could do for them- not sexual, but like maybe they can bake snacks.
Later that day marketing director and youngish female GP stepped into my office and explained how wrong what I said was. In fact our firm's labor department has a training film that shows basically that scenario as an example.
I said my practice is built upon a woman attorney and I just wanted to deflect senior GP's stupid dismissal, but then I apologized unconditionally.
The next day I was talking to marketing director and something came up and she made a double entendre joke. And I looked at her and said, "in this environment I cannot even respond to that." She said, "you're right I shouldn't have said that." And I said, "or we can both act as adults and take context into account?"
But, the point is, we work in a country where a high percentage of the country voted for a corrupt insane man or a third party candidate. Americans are stupid and you cannot count on people seeing nuance, or understanding reality.
I get you post to argue but what you are saying about the current "okay behavior" is way off.
I'm presently exiting a side gig dealing with way more HR than I'd like. (I have to fake it through most of it, as I find the stuff really tawdry, and most people involved in those controversies a mix of stunningly stupid and clinically delusional.)
Still, nobody gets fired for talking up his or her love for Taylor Swift. You could scream it in the hallways -- "I think Taylor Swift is the hot-hot-hottiest hottie of them all!" -- and it's not a firing matter. (At least for harassment reasons.)
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