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Old 01-29-2018, 11:41 AM   #4114
ThurgreedMarshall
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Re: Immigration

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Yes, and voting for a shutdown on Friday and then to lift it on Monday while the GOP was all over the map on what it could agree to was no better than the fourth best outcome from that conflict. Best outcome: GOP caves and you get the Dream Act. Second Best Outcome: GOP doesn't cave but you've demonstrated resolve by fighting (helping your (iii)). Third best: don't shut down because you know you don't have the votes to hold it.

The fourth best outcome pisses off all sides and tips your lack of resolve and unity to the GOP.

Basically, the Pod Save America guys have my proxy here.
I'm not quite sure I understand what you're trying to accomplish. We should shut down the government for an extended period of time to "demonstrate resolve" over a losing issue? You realize that the government employs many people and shutting it down causes tremendous problems, correct?

You're starting to sound like a Bernie Bro. If any of the assholes who are pissed off at Dems over Dreamers getting fucked by Republicans don't vote because of this, then we might as well all set fire to our own fucking houses right now.

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