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Extended period of time? How about more than less than one week day?
Again, the messaging from the White House was all over the map and there had been a bipartisan deal on the table. You just can't fold immediately. At minimum you need the GOP to make it's "no" clear. They didn't.
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Bullshit. If you don't think they didn't know exactly what the Republicans were doing, you're crazy. Republicans sure do want to appeal to a broader audience (which obviously includes the Latino vote going forward), but they don't want to take a stand on it. Ever.
Dragging this shit out for 2 weeks yields fucking nothing other than "Dems shut down government for foreigners," which is all that fits in the minds of our dumbass electorate.
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And today Schumer said that they need to "focus on the middle class" and can't let the Dreamers "occupy the whole stage." They are losing this, and very badly.
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What? Losing what? They aren't in a position to force anything. We lost when we lost control of all branches of government. There
is no winning. There is only framing this as something the Republicans are doing, because that's the truth. And you and all the other Dems acting like Schumer is fucking it up are muddying that message.
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Light the match. When you only half show up for people you need to be energized to vote for you, you're in serious trouble. Heck, it was one of the reasons Bernie couldn't get the nomination.
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Bullshit.
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ETA: I'm behind on my TAL, but recently heard a teaser with Minnesota DFL chair saying that the Democrat's brand is shit. While he's not great shakes in my book, he's right. The public has no idea what they stand for, because they don't know what they stand for.
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I'm so fucking sick of this bullshit.
There IS no easy fix for this. Being a Democrat and building means different things to different people. Having a single, clear message that works for union workers in PA, solar panel installers in CA, and miners in NM is
impossible. It's not as easy as "Hate the Other and NO to taxes." When the message is complex it
necessarily cannot please everyone. This constant criticism of the Democratic Party for not just coming up with a clear message is fucking stupid. If it were so easy, we'd have had 100 suggestions by now, wouldn't we?
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And yes, any one of can rattle off some core values, but what are they trying to accomplish? What's the mission?
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The mission right now is to remove the assholes from office who are destroying this country. I'm not sure it gets any more straightforward than that. And if you (the general "you") can't get behind that, then you're an asshole.
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