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Old 04-03-2018, 12:33 PM   #74
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Re: We are all Slave now.

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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop View Post
A lot of #NeverTrump folks are not particularly clear about what it is about Trump that pushes them to that view -- not that they won't criticize him, but I'm not seeing a ton of effort to articulate what it is that he stands for that conservatives should reject, and to make that case to conservatives. Often it's just assumed as self-evident, which supplants the hard work of articulating (what should be the) key conservative values. Not saying this about you, btw -- I think you've been much clearer about it than most.
Trade, immigration, and debt. That's it. The NeverTrumpers are classic Rockefeller republicans on trade, believe (admirably, and based on historical, factual proof) that immigration improves this nation, and fear growing govt debt.

They used to also detest Trump's isolationist rhetoric, many of them being neocons. The installation of Bolton fixed that problem.

I think a lot of NeverTrumpers also believe Trump is simply too indecent to hold high office.

Apropos, here's Bill Kristol being brutally honest about why we need immigrant intellectual and cultural capital. I usually find him near nauseating, but he's right here, and it's pretty funny when he realizes he's mic'd.
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