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Old 12-03-2003, 01:31 PM   #2104
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Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
Are you one of those people who thinks we would have won in Vietnam if only the press hadn't caused so much trouble? How interesting!
Actually, to a great degree, yes. (But, count in "pacifist pols", too.)

I was one of those rabidly-anti-war types - SDS, etc. - whose massed millions eventually caused us to limit our involvement to unwinnable levels, and then pull out. (A great regret of my life, as I now see that I was completely on the wrong side of that.) We didn't lose that war - we simply allowed ourselves to be led in dishonest and untruthful ways into a great national consensus that was flat-out wrong. We were sheep, led by the PC of those times and an oversimplistic, and, I think now, racist, view of life. I fear the same fate for our fight in Iraq. We could easily win this, but, if we get convinced by more lies, we won't - we'll underman a battle while concentrating on placards and banners that don't reflect reality.

There was a great article/op-ed in the (gasp!) LA Times a few weeks back that set out a position mirroring my own, quite nicely. I'll try to find it. It says this all better than I can.
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