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Originally posted by bilmore
But you end up pushing a tautology with that view. The populace will lose faith if the "we're losing, and we suck" myth keeps getting repeated, and the mantra here is to repeat it, because it might effect public opinion, and so it might end up being true . . .

This just strikes me as the least self-aware, most self-damning argument I have ever encountered. Not yours in particular - I mean the whole idea that it might be going bad, someone says it might be going bad, it's really not but it's being repeated, so it's going bad . . We're the ones who would have to be convinced, and it seems like a complete abdication of independent thought to buy into this.

No, no -- I meant the Iraqi populace.