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Old 05-23-2018, 12:37 PM   #932
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Re: Whew

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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield View Post
There's reason to investigate Trump.
It's becoming increasingly clear that they didn't start out investigating Trump, but rather foreign efforts to interfere. A candidate and campaign with any sense at all would have realized that this is done to protect the candidate not persecute him. It seems the candidate did not want protection and was just fine with whatever foreign help he could get.

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Mueller is torturing everybody in Trump's circle to find out if chargeable collusion took place.
Trump associated himself with criminals, and they're being criminally prosecuted for it. I don't see the Lewinsky parallel at all.

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Cohen's an idiot.
Cohen's been on the edge of criminality for years and then seemed to go out an overtly try to illegally sell access. Why should he not face prosecution (by the SDNY no less) for that?

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But it was also something else:
A set of "crimes" which would never have been uncovered or pursued but for Mueller's desire to flip these people on Trump.
This is an indictment about how bad we are at prosecuting white collar crime.

If Trump, Cohen and Manafort have been up to the money-laundering it sure looks like they've been up to, we should be lamenting that so few prosecutions for that type of crime happen, rather than viewing them as victims.

BTW, y'all should be listening to Trump, Inc., which pretty regularly creates "wow, how wasn't that something I learned during the campaign" moments.
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