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Old 05-24-2018, 03:02 PM   #970
Tyrone Slothrop
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Re: Whew

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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield View Post
Because Russia is on a campaign to destabilize all Western govts by, among other things, fucking with elections.
My point: It's pretty clear that it wasn't just Russia.

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Because I haven’t seen convincing evidence of a quid pro quo. It’s no crime or conspiracy to borrow from Russians.
Is smoke convincing evidence of a fire, or do you actually need to be burned by the fire to believe in it? I haven't seen "convincing evidence" of a quid pro quo either, nor would I expect to have. But I'm also not the one opining authoritatively that Mueller's investigation is overblown. Mueller isn't talking. All we know about what's got is from a few public actions and leaks from defense attorneys.

Oh, wait -- that understates things. You also have a President who is frantically trying to derail the investigation. Hard to imagine how Trump could act more guilty. And you have rampant corruption on the part of Trump and people up and down throughout his government and the Trump Organization. Smoke, but no fire.
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