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Old 06-01-2018, 12:17 PM   #1071
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Re: I'm hoping...

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Originally Posted by LessinSF View Post
To rephrase it, science doesn't care wbat you beleve.
If I wish to not participate in and perhaps even discredit the two party system, of what value is it to offer me the criticism: "You've ruined it for the rest of us who favor the two party system!"

Of course I have.

I didn't know Trump would win. But a protest vote is a protest vote.

And look what we're talking about? Third party voters. By voting as I did, small gesture it was, I've helped to inject volatility into the two party system. If you desire to change a system that is adverse to change, don't you have to start by destabilizing it?

Trump is a lesson in what happens when a stagnant system persists for too long. That a clown like him could hack the two party system demonstrates there's a serious fucking problem with it. My guess:
It doesn't deliver for enough of its constituents anymore. And it probably can't, due to economic forces beyond its control. So instead, it lies and promises what it can't provide to keep itself and its donor classes in power. But those economic forces keep tripping it up, and the lies keep compounding, and no one believes anything it says anymore. It becomes so weak a strip mall PT Barnum and a pie-in-the-sky Socialist can hijack an election.
Look, I get the need to avoid volatility in actual state affairs. Trump is creating volatility there, and that is a problem. But I have no problem creating volatility in the two party system. That's a necessary and good thing. We just need to get better quality of insurgents than Trump and the too unrealistic Sanders.
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