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I'm really very sick of this bullshit. Those two candidates are not the same. Jeb would have pushed a lot of the same policy that is currently being passed by an all-Republican Congress based on pleasing the rich with massive tax cuts, reduction of government, gutting of regulation, and laws aimed at depriving gays and people of color as many rights as possible. Hillary would not.
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His father raised taxes and lost as a result. Jeb was a moderate, including on social issues.
Every GOP Congress tries to cut taxes and reduce govt. I'm not sure the first is wise, as it's always aimed to favor the top 1%. But reducing govt is a good thing.
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You keep stating that things are bad and would have remained bad for people in this country like it is a product of our political system. You need to stop. Things are bad because of runaway capitalism. You are right that globalization and automation is taking a real toll. But the fact that you constantly argue that people are hurting because the two party system is so invested in maintaining the trend of reducing workforce is absolutely insanity. The government reacts to our economic realities. It doesn't set them. So if one side is desperately trying to help the country adjust and progress to help mitigate those realities and the other is trying desperately to pretend they don't exist by shutting us off from the world, protecting jobs in dying industries while failing to invest in the ones that will carry us forward, and using racism, homophobia, and xenophobia to accomplish it, you need to acknowledge that difference.
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Expanding safety nets and the fantasy of retraining obsolete workers are no fixes at all. Nearly as useless and counter-productive as protectionism.
Replacing safety nets and their administrative components with universal basic income, making the economic arguments for a single payer system (which are strong), and taxing rentier capitalists would good starts. Hillary was only planning to do the second. The first is anathema to any Democrat because it eliminates govt jobs. The third would piss off the people who fill her campaign coffers -- her owners.
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The amount of damage this asshole has done to this country in one fucking year with the help of a willing Republican legislative body will take 30 to 50 years to undo.
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That's a brash prediction. I think you'll be surprised how fast a subsequent administration can reverse the damage.
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Everyone on this board understands that what happened in 2016 is unprecedented. The causes are many--among them, Comey acting the fool, Russia undermining our entire system, the natural, racist swing in the opposite direction from a smart, black President, idiots like you voting third party in a very close and important election, social media, Fox News garbage, bullshit Republican hit-job Hillary investigations, etc. You need to admit to yourself that people like you contributed to the problem by not voting to keep a lunatic out of office. What happened doesn't land completely on you. But you and everyone else who voted third party sure played your part.
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This kind of critique I can accept. Hank's "It's all on the third party voters!" shtick was getting old because it counters the facts you just cited. And yet he kept pummeling that dead horse...
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How do we solve it? Get one party to stop feeding, cultivating, and taking advantage of it? Maybe get them to actually protect our system of democracy from foreign attacks instead of letting the President intentionally fail to act because it currently favors them?
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All very reasonable. Similarly reasonable is to tell the other party to stop promising to take care of everybody in exchange for votes. Govt has limits.
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Politics sucks. And both parties have their issues. But there is only one party willing to destroy everything we have valued about this country just so they can remain in power.
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The Trump Movement doesn't see it that way. They really believe they are saving the country's essential character. I thought it was all a posture by Congress to placate the base. Now I'm beginning to think it's contagious, and Congress has actually bought into the nativist message.
