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Old 06-06-2018, 11:41 AM   #1112
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Re: I'm hoping...

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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy View Post
The third party voters are akin to the Germans, ready to accept whatever horrors come their way while they indulge themselves in disdain for everyone else.

I continually debate whether the third-party and independent cretins are more loathsome than the GOP or not. They are really hand-in-glove in what they're doing to this country.
So I'm a "monster," a Nazi enabler, and a "cretin."

You think maybe you're just a tad dramatic here? You have defied Godwin's Law...

I am espousing a view of politics that differs from yours. And not dramatically. We actually agree on most things.

You owe no duty of civility to anyone, and I'd be the first to defend your right to be coarse. But shrillness is part of your side's problem. The response to disagreement isn't venom or hysteria.

There was a guy named Bret Stephens on Maher the other night. He hates Trump. I mean, really, seriously fucking loathes Trump. But instead of defaulting to invective, or playing to the idiot liberals in Maher's crowd who howl when people call Trump a baboon, he just coolly, calmly, destroyed everything Trump stands for, and explained why it's contrary to true Republican ideals. (He voted for Hillary, by the way, so he doesn't agree with me, either.)

I understand this isn't a formal debate forum. But generally, what you've done in comparing third party voters to Nazis is play right into Trump's hands. He wants the emotional argument. He wants the self-righteous indignation.

You can't wrestle in the mud with this pig and the bigot/xenophobe arm of his base. You can only play the adults in the room and hope it works.

Also, there is 000.00% value in calling out every one of Trump's lies and dissecting in detail why they are wrong. While the Left does that, Trump has already lied again five more times. It's like handing out speeding tickets at a Nascar event. He's lying serially on purpose. He knows it occupies all of the media's time, forces them to focus on ten small things at once, and gives him 100% of the coverage 100% of the time.

You're getting worked. Played like a fiddle. Stop doing so.

The way to address Trump is with zero emotion. Treat him as serious developers in NY have for years -- snicker at him, ignore him, and if asked about him, raise an eyelid and say, "the man's a buffoon... next subject."
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