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Old 06-26-2018, 10:51 AM   #1314
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Re: We are all Slave now.

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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy View Post
What really pisses me off about the damn bakers is not their politics, it is that they give Christianity a bad name. The religion I cling to is a faith in which God is not a bigot.
I can't credibly claim to be an atheist because I can't entirely disprove the existence of some creating force.* But I can and do insist on strident agnosticism.

We can easily prove that all religions are fairy tales. And that if there is a creative force, it's in no way related to and communicated with via religion. Jesus, Moses, Mohammed - none of them have anything to do with God. They're historical figures, or characters, in myths and stories. So from one long lapsed Christian to you -- perhaps dispense with the rituals altogether. If a thing must be clinged to, and so many mountains of evidence prove it is not at all divine, and in no way endorsed by any creative force, is it worth following? And particularly where it can be so easily and neatly used to justify not only bigotry but slavery (the Big Three all endorsed slavery).

I think if there is a creative force, it's diametrically opposed to organized religion. Nothing could create so much and yet be tied to something so counterproductive.

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*Try as I might, scientifically, logically I can't get there. And this effort involves substantial efforts to use Hitchens' Razor to knock out the theist position. No matter how I labor in that regard, the fact that this universe exists renders me unable to say there's no evidence supporting the existence of a creative force that may be defined loosely as "God."
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