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Old 06-26-2018, 11:16 AM   #1319
sebastian_dangerfield
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Re: We are all Slave now.

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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop View Post
With Sarah Huckabee Sanders getting asked to leave the Red Hen restaurant, people are pointing to the hypocrisy of outrage from conservatives who supported the right of the Colorado baker to decline to serve a gay couple. And other people have pointed out that liberals are told that a failure to respect opposing views will provoke a backlash from conservatives, something that never comes up when conservatives, e.g., wear shirts that say "fuck your feelings."

There's no hypocrisy. It's all of a piece. Conservatives do not care about process and equality. They care about outcome and hierarchy. They believe that Sarah Sanders Huckabee deserves deference and gay couples do not. The point of the "fuck your feelings" shirts is that liberal feelings do not matter and conservative feelings do. Conservatives do not believe in the Golden Rule. They believe, I've got mine, and fuck you. Since Trump expresses that better than anyone else, they adore him for it. People who thought they were conservative who disagree are discovering that they are no longer conservative.
"Feelings" should not have any place in policy or law. The correct word is "rights."

You have certain rights upon which I cannot infringe, regardless of my "feelings" about whether and to what extent you should have those rights.

So lump me in with the "fuck your feelings' crowd in regard to policy and law. Policy and law are not the place where we assuage anyone's "feelings." There is no obligation to make sure people's feelings are not hurt. We can and should discuss things like feelings, but that's between private individuals, not a matter for govt intervention.

But the rest of your point - that most conservatives today (and almost all Trumpkins) aren't conservatives at all, is accurate. Conservatives today favor government intervention where they wish to make others behave as they desire and demand enforcement of negative rights where they are being compelled to behave in a manner they do not like. That's not conservative at all. Nor is it liberal. It's authoritarian. Which explains why they like Trump so much.

It's not hyperbole to argue rabid Trump supporters are quasi-fascists. I don't know if the criticism ultimately sticks because I think if Trump became a true authoritarian, these people would have significant buyer's remorse and rally against him. But they are "temporarily deluded quasi-fascists."

True conservatives, libertarians, moderates, quasi-conservatives, and quasi-libertarians are adrift. I don't know where we go. I'm just floating around, and occasionally my boat runs past Hank's or SEC Chick's or Slave's and we wave to each other. But we really don't have a place in Trumpland.
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