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Originally Posted by SEC_Chick
People like Ty thinking they understand conservatives in middle America is why we have Trump. I have seen a few #NeverTrumpers move to Trump agnostics and are now are full on MAGA. And it had nothing to do with Trump, but everything to do with idiots like Maxine Waters. I'm increasingly resigning myself to Trump 2020.
I'll go back to clinging to my guns and religion, now.
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I agree with you 100% regarding liberal caricatures galvanizing Trumpkins and even converting moderates to Trump.
Nobody likes whiners or self-righteous finger waggers telling them how to think. And that pretty much describes the Left right now.
But (huge caveat here), Ty isn't wrong. His main point, that conservatism doesn't really exist anymore, is correct. You're a conservative. Could you square Trump's platform with your traditional conservative views? Of course not. Which is why you went #NeverTrump and voted third party.
Ty's point would have been better made as, "These Trump supporters are not conservatives. They are just calling themselves that." I think that's what he intended to say. Which, of course, invites the next discussion. If Trump is largely anathema to both true conservatism and liberalism, do true conservatives and liberals align to fight his movement? Or do we have a three party system of liberals, true conservatives, and "temporarily deluded quasi-fascists"?
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Note: I use "liberals" because I am socially liberal and think the word needs to be preserved. But I fear these animals are nearly as extinct as true conservatives, replaced with "progressives" who hold some authoritarian views ("I know what's best for you, and I'm going to make you follow my rules!").
