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Old 06-27-2018, 04:10 PM   #1394
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Re: We are all Slave now.

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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield View Post
Where I diverge is in regard to the progressive notions that we have to counter bad old rules with bad new rules.
This is what everything you wrote (and a lot of it is just garbage) boils down to, and it's the crux of the problem with your false equivalency. (I'm not going to touch the race stuff because it's annoying and frustrating to talk about that stuff with you. You're gonna see what you want to see and that's that.)

You can "diverge" all you want. The problem with you is that you are equating institutional power (legislative, executive, and judicial, not to mention educational, economic, prosecutorial, law enforcement, etc.) which is actually shaping the laws and every single de jure application of that power [the right wing] with opinion, collective pressure, shaming, protest [the left wing]. You weep about how a couple of powerful people are being overly harmed after centuries of the powerful taking what they want from the less powerful. The minute that dynamic shifts an ounce and you're talking about how we no longer have a First Amendment or Due Process. You should be embarrassed to make those arguments.

The two sides I laid out are not fucking equivalent no matter how much you say progressives are trying to "change the law." It's ridiculous and stupid.

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