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Old 06-28-2018, 11:38 AM   #1416
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Re: We are all Slave now.

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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall View Post
This is what everything you wrote (and a lot of it is just garbage) boils down to, and it's the crux of the problem with your false equivalency. (I'm not going to touch the race stuff because it's annoying and frustrating to talk about that stuff with you. You're gonna see what you want to see and that's that.)

You can "diverge" all you want. The problem with you is that you are equating institutional power (legislative, executive, and judicial, not to mention educational, economic, prosecutorial, law enforcement, etc.) which is actually shaping the laws and every single de jure application of that power [the right wing] with opinion, collective pressure, shaming, protest [the left wing]. You weep about how a couple of powerful people are being overly harmed after centuries of the powerful taking what they want from the less powerful. The minute that dynamic shifts an ounce and you're talking about how we no longer have a First Amendment or Due Process. You should be embarrassed to make those arguments.

The two sides I laid out are not fucking equivalent no matter how much you say progressives are trying to "change the law." It's ridiculous and stupid.

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I am not making any comparison at all. Regarding #metoo, I am simply stating that it is wrong and absurd to destroy people without a full and fair vetting of the accusations against them. I am also saying that it is no excuse to do so because for years, institutions have protected "male privilege."

Institutional discrimination is a unique problem of its own. I agree it needs to be rooted out. What I don't understand is why you think I'm equating this with shaming, protest, etc. I'm not. Not at all.

The Left has every right to flip out as it likes. It can say any overheated thing it desires. So can the right. What I'm saying is this stuff probably isn't going to be as effective as the Left thinks it will be, and it might be counterproductive. But I don't not think the Left's behavior is wrong, or bad, or in any way near as pernicious as institutional discrimination.

The Left's protests and rhetoric are both justified and understandable. However, their mob attacks on people like Hardwick and Ansari are despicable.
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