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Old 07-10-2018, 12:17 PM   #1599
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Re: We are all Slave now.

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Last week was tough for me. The family beach house (my wife's side) had a couple very empowered feeling Trumpsters in it.

One of them was talking about how great his recent stint of grand jury duty was because he realized the small Northern city he lives in effectively has cameras everyone, so almost every crime that came before them had tape. My wife brought up the social credit policy and monitoring and he thought it was a truly wonderful thing, and that every "ghetto" (apparently Trumpsters use the word ghetto again, truly bringing back the 60s) should be so monitored.

Of course, he didn't think it was needed in his suburb.
I don't throw "treasonous" around a lot. But if you think it's good to have cameras everywhere, or just in the "ghettos," you're supporting treasonous notions.

I believe a politician who would suggest a surveillance state is so anti-American, such anathema to every basic notion of freedom we've held, that I would openly support and hope for armed rebellion against him.

You're clearly a kinder and more patient sort than me. I've had to leave the room where people made the argument, "The govt can I spy on me... I have nothing to hide," in response to NSA snooping on citizens. I'd probably wind up in a fistfight with someone telling me he was happy to have cameras everywhere - particularly in the "bad areas" of town (where those with enhanced melanin presumably reside).

If you believe that govt surveillance of citizens without a warrant is okay, or that we should have a 24/7 surveillance state (a precursor to Minority Report dystopia), you aren't an American. You don't have a fucking clue what it means to be an American. You violate Franklin's Rule 1 of America Club: Sacrificing liberty for safety. You're a danger to the Republic and the diametrical opposite of a "patriot." ...Though I'm sure you love to refer to yourself as such.

I'd like to say I'd deport you. But I wouldn't. Because as much as I'd like to see you suffer a variety of indignities, you've a right to spew dumb, vile, and treasonous notions. It's in that Constitution you claim to keep in your back pocket.
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