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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Let's just go back and forth with examples. That will be productive.
The simple facts are these: We are moving away from agrarian- and industrial-based economies towards technology. That means we are going to be more concentrated. The more concentrated we become, the more antiquated our voting system becomes. It makes absolutely zero sense for Montana to have the same amount of power in the Senate as NY, CA, or TX. And the more people move from states that have very few people and who produce very little, the less sense it makes. We should be about efficiency and representing people in a way that makes sense in our current and changing reality.
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the senate even with the seats distributed between the states based upon population is not representative. LA and the Bay Area control x% of the house seats in Cali but 100% of the senate seats. We should give LA/SF control of 10 senate seats even though that mean 30 or 40% of the state is not represented (as they are not now but maybe represented by the Montanas of the Union?). We’ve created these meaningless state lines, and those boundaries have nothing to do with where is population.
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Yes. Throw the electoral college all the fucking way out. It's stupid.
And do you think your argument about not having a President from NY or CA is convincing? That's where all the people live. As for your dumbass example of our current President being from NY, I'm going to let you sit and think about who elected him (here's a hint--it wasn't NY, IL, or CA). Be consistent with your argument.
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Thurgreed 2008 would have realizedI was just fucking with him on the Trump reference:sad. Your lumbago acting up?
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Let's look at the rest of your statement. If I say the system is flawed and becoming more flawed because it rewards states more power than they should have based on their population and production and punishes states where all the people live and work, then I am necessarily saying that we need to change it. Yes, I know that the proposal is different than how we've always done it. But if representation is no longer even close to fair (the President won while losing the popular vote by 3 million fucking votes!) and is getting worse, why wouldn't we change it? Again, it was set up the way it was set up in a completely different era. And it no longer makes sense.
And here's another reason why our current system doesn't work: White people in this country do not act rationally. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/19/o...publicans.html
https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/SFTS18-19
TM
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except every time the lesser vote getter became Prez it was because of lib dimwits voting third party. W won (hi ty!!!) Fla because of Nader voters for fucks sakes. You don’t throw out a system that gas functioned fairly well to try something no one does because some space fucks can’t think straight. To quote someone - fuck outta here
