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Old 08-06-2018, 05:56 PM   #2081
ThurgreedMarshall
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Re: We are all Slave now.

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2. The more reasoned of Holocaust survivors I have met were quick to point out: "Sure Hitler hated our religion, but say what you will, the man was not a racist."
I think I'm missing your point here. Are you being completely facetious? Seems pretty clear you are.

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But I may have been the only one to actually listen to the interview with the Columbia student, so let me just drop a reminder here- Harris starts with "liberals want to act like no blacks commit crime." Okay, get that, I think the "all blacks good, all whites bad" posts here are the dumbest.
I intentionally ignored Sebby's link (and based on the last few days of posts, boy am I glad I did), so give me a little space to be incorrect here. But what the fuck is this? What liberals want to act like no blacks commit crime? Is this a slick way of effectively ignoring people asking that blacks be given the same type of treatment as whites (namely, when white people commit crime, it's always an individual failing as opposed to when black people commit a crime when white people so often attribute it to the fact that they are black)?

And I think I missed all those "all blacks good, all whites bad" posts here. Link please.

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Then Harris starts summarizing crime stats and gets to "young black men are way more likely to commit crimes." I don't know, to me stats are sort of silly- if someone in my fam is the victim of a violent crime I don't think where we fit in on the "likelihood/stat" spectrum will make me feel much.
Also, the stats are juked. If you stop black people at higher rates, indict them at higher rates, convict them at higher rates, you don't get to point to those stats while ignoring the stats that say that black people who are stopped are less or equally likely to possess drugs or have committed crimes. It's a silly game that racists use to justify their theories that black people are inherently criminal.

They also don't even take into account class when they start spewing stats. If you want to compare black crime to white crime (even without taking into account the racism involved with arrests, prosecutions, and convictions), you would have to compare a segment of the white population that matches up economically with where the black population sits. That'll never happen.

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But then he takes the stats and says they justify mistreating/suspecting the next young black man that walks into your store. The Columbia student seems supportive of the thought, so maybe it's just me. BUT implying ALL black men are likely criminals, and in particular, the one you are now encountering, feeds the fear that leads to men with their hands in the air being shot, doesn't it?
Okay, I see where you're going now and think we're saying the same thing.

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