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Old 08-07-2018, 05:23 PM   #2127
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Re: We are all Slave now.

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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield View Post
GGG and Adder have taken the position Harris is invalid on all things, without even considering the conversation.
I have? I've taken the position that "don't you think context is necessary here so that your audience is not misled?" is not censorship. And the position that I have no interest in learning who Harris is.

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But when I criticize the left, I'm in bed with the alt right! (Not your criticism, but Adder's.)
You didn't "criticize the left" you said "that's not racism" which I suggested was a comment that was completely unnecessary outside the bounds of alt right discourse. There's no meaningful distinction between racial animus and religious animus and to the extent that you feel the semantics matter, the context made completely clear what which was being discussed. In alt right discourse, the distinction matters to (1) attempt to make the religious animus appear relatively not that bad, and (2) narrow the scope of "real racism" out of existence. Outside that discourse, there's no point.

And I said you clearly are reading some alt right stuff, whether you know it or not.

For the record, I do not care at all who you are in bed with.

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The standard on assessing Trump voters is not, "They're all racists except the extent someone proves some of them are not."
Racism is everywhere. It permeates American policy and politics. You have this notion that it's some limited set of malevolent beliefs held by the unwashed few, when, in fact, it is how and why many of our institutions were set up and intended to function. Those stridently insisting on the status quo (or worse, going back to how things used to be), are pretty fairly assumed to be either okay with that fact or ignorant of it, which isn't really any better unless they're willing to learn.
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