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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield
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You still haven't answered my question. Is it your position that a group once and persistently discriminated against can not be responsible to any extent for anything it does afterward?
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To what end is that important? A “group” doesn’t feel the pain, individuals do. And this sort of analysis can be used to say “look this one black guy got to be a VP at a bank, so why is this other black guy sitting on a stoop at 3 in the afternoon?” And that’s bullshit because they both had a million facts hit them and lead to where they’re at.
I was talking with a white man about affirmative action in colleges. His kids had just been born and he felt it was very wrong and unfair to white kids. I told him about 3 young black men I knew who were applying to college at that point and who didn’t have fathers in their lives (and this is one example I know the no dad thing could be an overblown stereotype, but it was true for these 3). And I said you cannot say these kids are on equal footing with say, my son. And white guy asked “whose fault is that?”
And the question gave me pause- maybe it’s society’s as the legacy of racism carries over? Or maybe it’s the fathers for not being there? Or maybe it’s the mothers for having a kid with a guy who bails? But who gives a fuck- the kid isn’t at fault and that’s who is living with the harm. So point is why dream up stats, when the potential harm from the stat is bad, and the stat misses any legit point?
