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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
OK. No one is saying that, but I'm sure you can find some more windmills to tilt at, Mr Quixote.
Like what, when?
As a practical matter, why do you think any of this is important?
You don't see very concerned that we don't use "science" to "assess" the extent to which a given group has been disadvantaged by pervasive bias. Shouldn't you start there, if you're that worried about intellectual consistency?
For my part, I think it's pretty clear that there are systemic harms that have been done to different groups in this country and others, and I generally don't see a need to try to shift the "responsibility" for some of that harm back to the victim, unless it's something other than an exercise in blaming the victim and absolving society. Maybe it isn't, but if you think there's a case to be made you're doing a piss-poor job of making it.
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I think it’s important to revere logic in all discussions because if we eschew that, we’re fucked.
The right lives in an alternative reality. The left wishes to squash logic they don’t like. Neither should be allowed to engage in any of this.
You’ll of course see this as false equivalence. I see no daylight between people who’d eschew logic and fantasists. Both lead to “alternative fact” based realities, to borrow from Conway at her nadir.
