Re: icymi above
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield
ETA: Holy shit... In 30 seconds of Googling, here's a study of data on exactly the types of issues discussed by Harris and Klein. https://socialequity.duke.edu/sites/...%20REPORT_.pdf Exactly the type of data you said could not be assessed. And to boot -- it supports the argument that personal responsibility is not a cause of the disadvantages referenced within it (wealth disparity).
Now it's time for you to subtly shift your position from "It can't be done or shouldn't be done" to, "See, it's pointless to do it. As you can see from this study (in which they do it), it proves that Harris was wrong to even consider personal responsibility."
You're going to contradict yourself on so many levels in the next post, let me just distill this to a neat final point: It's always a good thing to ask questions - to test things. And arguing against that is really, really stupid.
(I was not holding this to rope a dope you. I really found it in 30 seconds.)
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I have no problem with that study and don't see how it challenges anything I've said. Why don't you quote what I said that you think the existence of that study falsifies.
eta: I never said questions like ones in that study can't be assessed. I said that a disadvantaged group's "responsibility" for its own disadvantages cannot be "assessed" with "science." Do you not see the difference?
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