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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield
I agree with this. But if the context is offered to make the argument that a group, once oppressed, bears no responsibility for its circumstances at any point in the future, that's not mere context, but an effort to abridge factual inquiry. It's actually avoiding context, as full context necessarily includes assessment of that group's own actions.
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How the fuck can you determine how a group contributes to their own situation? You keep saying things like "factual" and "scientific," but you never address the underlying ridiculous premise that racial groups voluntarily act in concert somehow and don't just react to their treatment as a group.
A large number of black people do not fail to learn how to swim because black people have decided they don't really want to swim. They have been (and continue to be) forced to live in areas where there is no access to water, they were historically excluded from public pools, they don't have a foundation of people who are capable of teaching them to swim because their parents, friends, etc. never learned (for the reasons stated above). You want to argue that we need to assess some kind of blame percentage to blacks as a group because a disproportionate number of us (compared to whites, similarly situated minorities, everyone else?) do not know how to swim and are not going out and getting swimming lessons? Can you see why this shit is so stupid?
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