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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield
I thought Less was criticizing GGG's suggestion that Argento's behavior was excusable because she'd been previously compelled into sex by Weinsten. I think that's what Less and GGG meant. I could be wrong.
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Sure. And Less was just initially curious about whether Argento was being reasonable.
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield
The suggestion she gets a pass because Harvey abused her is not without some merit.
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No it isn't. One can understand that there are reasons behind abuse that involve the abused become abusers. But no one gets a fucking pass. And she is currently not getting a pass.
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield
But it's a ridiculous stretch here. Giving a blowjob to save your career and being sexually exploited while underage are not the same thing.
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Absolutely no one is saying that they are the same thing. Are you attempting to set up another straw man conversation?
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield
HOWEVER... I haven't read the whole story about the guy with whom Argento had sex. But he was 17. At 17, many of us were already having sex. I mean, maybe he's a victim of a sort... but really? Really? To any male on this board, If Asia Argento asked you to have sex when you were 17... If she pulled a Mrs. Robinson on you... Would you seriously, deep down, feel abused? Or would you perhaps think, Jesus Loves Me! (And then hope with all your might you can last more than two minutes.*)
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Ah, yes. The old, "Boys are lucky if hot women statutory rape them" bit.
This needs to stop. We pick an age of consent because we have determined that people under that age do not have the capacity to agree to sex. If you want to argue 17 isn't the right age, okay. But let's move beyond this ridiculous theme that young boys are lucky if they are abused by good looking women. The fact that so many people see it this way makes it almost impossible for them to actually come forward. They may think it was a great thing, but, as I understand it, they often have different feelings about it as they age. I wouldn't be surprised if they weren't often completely screwed up. It's either abuse or it's not. We don't say, "That girl shouldn't complain. The dude who took advantage of her is an athlete!"
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