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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

Fake sex assault accusations are only about 5-8% of all sex assault accusations, comparable to fake accusations of all other types of crime.

Given those stats, I don't see any reason for concern about false accusations. What I see as problematic here is the loose expansion of allegations, in several respects.

1. People used "rapist" before they had all of the facts. Some continue to do so to the present. We're all aware of the facts now, so the person on your FB feed calling him a rapist knows he or she is embellishing. I suspect a lot of these people don't care about that inaccuracy. Well, that is called lying. That's what Trump does. That one thinks himself or herself on the righteous side of this debate does not provide license to do what Trump does.

2. The allegation that Kavanaugh is somehow culpable for what his friends have done is chilling. This Judge fellow sounds like a serious loser with major psychological problems. That he claims to have gang raped someone and written bizarre religious gibberish about how "uncontrollable male lust" is a beautiful thing is not Kavanaugh's fault. The man is clearly demented, and not close with Kavanaugh anymore.

3. The indictment of Kavanaugh for having partied with wild suburban kids, some of whom were affluent (the media was quick to cite a dead Kennedy as a Kavanaugh pal) is unfair. There's nothing wrong with being part of a party scene. The broad brush attacks on kids behaving boorishly that've been going on strikes me a bit... puritan. And the assertion that libertines are kindred spirits with rapists is offensive. Many of us here are libertines. We've been to those keg parties. We've thrown them. And we did not - ever, under any circumstances - countenance sexual assault at such parties. Did people get wasted and hook up? Yes. Is it arguable some people felt regret at things they did at such parties, from sex, to falling through mom's wicker table on the deck, to throwing up all over the couch in the den? Sure. But being a reckless, drunk kid is not the same thing as being a predator. Having voted a guy out of a fraternity for merely threatening sexual assault on a female friend of ours, I believe it can and should be said that even the most libertine of us Know The Line. And assault, of any kind, is never tolerated. Judging any person for having reckless fun as a kid is disingenuous. Conflating a party scene with deviant criminal behavior is disingenuous, and smacks of puritan scolding. And the last thing this country needs right now is a resurgence of puritan values.

Are you agreed that being drunk or high, though, isn't an excuse for any action a person might take, and that no one gets to argue a passed out person consents?