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Old 12-09-2018, 07:59 PM   #4374
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy View Post
This does not sound like a single Trump voter I know, and I know a reasonable number of trump voters, espcially in my family or from where I grew up.

They are all rabid (and I mean rabid) Republicans. They generally hate democrats and like to snicker about them, whether Hilary or Obama. Most of them are better off than those around them. And most of them grew up that way.

Some of them are evangelicals, and those who are believe God makes them better than others, especially others who don't look like them. Half the evies I know are pretty well off, generally have good jobs and came from families that set them up. The other half are very well off, and own businesses or a fair amount of real estate. They're not motivated by economics but by their religion and their hate.

Some come from educated suburban families, mostly but not all establishment protestants or Catholics. These people believe they are better than other people because they are smarter or work harder; even in the numerous cases where neither of these is particularly true, their biggest grievance in life by far, repeated ad nauseum, is that they think "diversity" gets in the way of their kids getting into the same college they did. This may be the closest to your group, but they're all very well off - this is the wealthiest group I know who were Trumpers.

Finally, I have a sizable number of Trumpers I know who are military, ex-military, or law enforcement. For this group, Trump support is usually driven by a sense that we as a country and they as military or law enforcement should be able to throw our weight around more and pay less attention to the rights of individuals, domestic or abroad. These folks are all economically secure but in general less wealthy than the other groups.

The people I know who fit your description, people who have economic expectations that aren't being met, who truly work hard but still struggle, generally voted for Hillary.

Of course, I'm pulling this out of my ass just like you're pulling it out of your ass, but my ass is smarter, better educated, and knows more of the world than yours, which, lets face it, tends to sit in one place whining a lot.
I agree that all of those groups fall into the Trump umbrella. I don't agree that they entirely represent anything near the majority of it. YMMV, but in the MidAtlantic, I see more Trump voters congealed around that $72k median.

But I also see what you've described.

I'm going to take the high road on your last statement. You know not much of what you speak. But I'd offer this: It's best not to post after that much scotch. I respect you more when your pathological insecurity is in debate.
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