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Old 12-26-2018, 10:12 PM   #4558
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Re: We are all Slave now.

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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield View Post
Many conservatives believe they have no choice. There is a belief, and it is valid, that the Democratic has no acceptable solutions to the problems facing the country (wage stagnation, loss of work, all the issues causing "inequality"). The Democrats simply seek to manage those problems by giving things to those suffering as a result of them.

To a conservative, this is simply unacceptable. A state-run solution that manages losers rather than provides opportunities for them to dig their own ways out of their problems is the ultimate moral hazard, and a solution which would sap the essential spirit of the country. It is a step toward a European welfare state. It defies the basic premise of the United States.

So when you say conservatives are the problem because they vote for Trump, you tell half the story. The other half is that they have no choice but to vote for Trump.

I know what you'll say now... "But Hillary was basically an old line Republican." Maybe. I tend to think she was close to that. But a lot of conservatives I know didn't see it that way. They didn't trust her. They remembered her as Bill's progressive wife... the one who'd bring us single payer health care, federally mandated maternity leave, etc. A conservative who wishes to avoid those things and legitimately believes Hillary wants them is not a "problem." The binary choice provided to him which compels him to vote for Trump as the less extreme abandonment of his principles is the problem.
Do you even know how full of shit you are?

Conservatives don’t want brown people to get benefits. That’s it.
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