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Old 01-08-2019, 01:14 PM   #4734
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Re: We are all Slave now.

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I agree there are endless forms of racist impacts. That's not what Adder is saying. Adder is saying that people who unintentionally contribute to those impacts are racist. That's where I get off the train.
No. That's not what he's saying. He's saying that if you continually vote for the status quo and the status quo is racism, you are contributing to and maintaining that racist system and are, therefore, racist.

Again, drop the good-bad binary. It just is. Maybe think of it two different ways. There are evil racists who have slurs bouncing around in their heads all day and there are those who benefit from racism at others' expense who absolutely do not want to give that up.

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I've played golf at a club that at one time didn't admit Jews. I didn't know that at the time. Am I consequently an anti-semite? Of course not.
If you're friends with and vote for the politician who is a member and whose policies permit such clubs to exist, are you still not an anti-semite?

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The problem with Adder's reasoning is the conflation of impact and actor. Of course non-racists can have racist impacts. Racists can have non-racist impacts. But to say that society is filled racist impacts, and therefore everyone in it is racist, is creating a bizarre form of what Catholics call "original sin." I hardly think it's wise to follow reasoning approximating what that organization has preached.
I give up. Again.

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