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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

Because to do so you would have to prove every American is racist.

I don't have to prove anything. I've said something that anyone who has given the topic any amount of thought (or read what some of what people of color have written on the topic) realize is completely uncontroversial. Each and everyone one of us has racial biases. I know this because I do, because everyone I know does, because I try to hear black people when they talk about it, and because I've had some exposure to the science and history regarding people and groups (heck, I know someone who's always prattling on about politics as tribalism). To me, this is not a hard thing to admit.

What's weird to me is how difficult it is for (some, but a disturbingly large number if Dr. DiFranco and TM are to be believed) white people to admit it to themselves. It's weird to me how difficult it is for you admit it.

I simply do not believe that your youth included exactly none of the low-grade racial biases of the type mine did, and I note you haven't asserted that it didn't.

Maybe that's because you defined that stuff as "not racist," which is consistent with your own strange way of using that word.

What about the word "impossible" do you not grasp?

Were your arguments really so unquestionably convincing, you'd think someone, anyone, would be agreeing with you.

And the really dipshit thing about this conversation is I'm giving you an out. All you have to say is that some percentage of people are not racist.

I honestly do not think anyone is completely free of racial bias. If you think there's some quantum of bias below which a person is not "racist" then, okay, some of us are not racist. Great rhetorical victory you've won there.

You're using some nebulous definition, and a very tenuous theory that culture around one makes him a racist regardless of his own thoughts or actions, to push this absolute theory.

The culture makes our thoughts and actions racist. How do you still not grasp this?