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Old 01-24-2019, 12:44 PM   #4928
Tyrone Slothrop
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Re: We are all Slave now.

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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield View Post
Depends who you ask. Hoyer and Pelosi seemed to have different interpretations of the letter. It seemed designed to look strong to those who want to to strength, but reasonable to those seeking compromise.

This stand off is characterized by both sides playing to the rabid and more moderate members of their respective parties at the same time.

The problem for Trump is, the rabid base and the more moderate wing of the GOP are bitterly opposed to one another. A moderate R hates the wall and thinks this shutdown is mindlessly fucking with an already skittish economy. A member of the base thinks Trump standing up to the libruls is great.

Contrast this with the Ds, where moderates and the base are fairly well aligned. Moderates would throw Trump a bone to get the govt open, but agree with the base that building a wall is idiotic and a waste of money. Pelosi can satisfy both of these groups.

Trump's a king on the run with no bishops, knights, or rooks, and a queen on his tail.
What you're trying to say is that the shutdown is being driven by rabid conservatives who understand that they have to do things like take hostages and causes crises in order to get their way, because their ideas are not only unpopular generally, but also often within their own party.
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