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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski
THEN asking what is the standard? Must one satisfy one is actually okay given all views of the insulted class, or is there some objective average? Like with Frakken- many voices said give him a pass, others said he needs to go- if there are voices to fry the guy and others saying let him stand, do we find a mean?
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What is the standard for anything problematic? Just because there are issues that people view as "not their issue" does not mean that those who are the subject of the harm have to define the standard for you. As I said, black people are not a monolithic block. Neither are women. People within those groups disagree on how best to proceed. Don't use that fact as an excuse to throw up your hands and say, "Mixed messages! I give up!"
I tend to take a practical tack. Is the person doing positive things? Have they learned their lesson? How bad was the behavior at issue? What happens if they're removed? Isn't this what people do for all issues? When it comes to racism, sexism, homophobia, I can understand why it's harder for people to approach it that way because it's something that's very personal and hurtful. But if you're looking for a bright line rule, you're just not going to get it. You have to do the hard work like everyone else.
TM