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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall
I don't think anything I've said indicates that I think she was being insincere. I think it is an important issue to her. But I also think that (i) she wanted to make this her thing and forcing Franken out was part of that and (ii) I don't think she was particularly thoughtful about Franken in particular.
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Look, I'm not going to address all your points, because who has the time.
You were viewing her as an opportunist. I think she, like Franken and every other politician, has done some opportunistic things in the past - her past sins on immigration are the ones that actually bother me most. But here I think she was advancing something she believes in deeply. I think her anger was righteous, not opportunistic.
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Yeah. It's incredibly difficult to remember circumstances surrounding completely anonymous accusations. To the extent they weren't I believe Franken was completely respectful of the accusers and did not simply dismiss them. I do think he wanted an opportunity to dig in to them a bit and address them. He was not given that opportunity.
Are you fucking kidding with this shit?
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There were multiple non-anonymous accusations. Some of them looked potentially politically opportune and motivated by people with partisan axes to grind. Others didn't. Then there were the anonymous ones - and, yes, we can't take those as seriously without more information of some sort.
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You say this like you're not just redrafting your entire argument. Franken clearly wanted an inquiry and a chance to address the allegations formally. Gillibrand (and others, but her, the most and loudest) didn't want to give him that opportunity. I think that's wrong. You don't. I honestly don't understand how anyone (especially on this board) can be advocating for punishing people without giving them some sort of opportunity to get to the bottom of the truth and an opportunity to defend themselves.
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Nobody made him resign. Franken could have done what Northam is doing. He would have had to have borne some slings and arrows, and he'd probably have a lot fewer supporters today, because it would have been ugly.
