I don't think you understand anything at all. Most white people don't think about race (as it applies to their daily lives) because they don't have to. You should meet some people of color.
This is getting really dumb. Trump does not create groups who traffic in identity politics any more than any person who's ever sat in an office and created policy that harms them has. His MAGA pitch and his constant singling out of groups asking for fair treatment and acting like those groups are oppressing whites is the same. fucking. thing.
I wish I could have this conversation with someone who actually lives in the real world. People who are shit on object to being shit on. There isn't some overarching group of decision makers who can place one group's concerns ahead of the other when it comes to this stuff. If you think the Democratic Party is that organization, you are a fool.
And before you bring up how good the Republican Party is at sticking together, let me preempt by saying that their message is: "Hate the other, crazy religious shit, and no to everything except tax and regulatory cuts." There is no nuance, complexity, or empathy involved in what they want. So it's easy for them to always walk in lock-step.
Are you serious? Because if you don't realize that what you're saying is that a dialogue will
never be open, I can't help you.
I am genuinely confused by what is happening in your head. Our government deals with a multitude of issues on a number of fronts. If you're telling me that there is only enough energy or focus to handle one group's demands for equal treatment at a time, first I'll look at you like you're an idiot, then I will have to ask why there is so much energy and focus for creating bills that are constantly
taking away people's rights. Transgendered people in the military wasn't really an issue until this Administration made it one. Pence is constantly trying to harm the LGBT community. There are new attacks every fucking day. You're expecting those communities to sit down and shut up until black people are no longer killed, arrested, prosecuted, etc. at higher rates? This is pure nonsense.
Yes and no. Trump hasn't discovered anything. He's preaching to the basest belief system to which his base is receptive--one that has been exploited for fucking centuries. And he lets Pence and Miller shit all over people with actual policy because the two things align and he cares not one whit about anyone but himself.
I speak for the entire black community by expressing our most sincerest thank you! But this is not how anything works.
I won't address the substance of what you're saying because asking people to sit down and shut up with their grievances because "we only have the bandwidth to deal with one group of minorities at a time," is absolute insanity.
I'm not sure if you realize this, but this up-and-down is a constant theme when it comes to race in this country. We've been talking about it in the same way for forever. It's the same with mass shootings. But I don't get your point. The reason why energy for the issue goes away is (1) because people in this country are fucking racist and selfish and if it doesn't impact them, they have limited outrage and (2) because of this general sense of complete indifference to other people (or anything other than their wallets), elected officials don't need to ever do anything about it. There are no penalties.
I find your description of the active steps our government is taking to remove protections and rights from people as "grievances" to make an argument that people should move to the back of the Grievance line to be a true dick move.
Again, this is not how it fucking works.
So, in the face of
new (and let's just limit it to what's new for the sake of this discussion) legislation and policy designed to harm whole swaths of people, everyone who is not a straight, white, male should shut the fuck up until racism and racist policy is solved. This is your grand proposal? This is your solution? There is something truly wrong with you.
You were just in the group of people who threw their vote away, enabling him to reach office.
Ah. This is
strategy. Got it.
Stop it. She is new and shiny. She gets her voice heard. She is no different than any other fucking politician other than she is better at it.
And yet not happy enough to actually vote for her. That's brilliant.
I cannot stress this enough. There is no single decision-making entity that decides on strategy. And if you think people should (or will) just table issues that are essential to their lives, you are a moron.
I think this is stupid and impossible. You can talk strategy in the abstract all you like. But if the Administration bans the transgendered from serving, those people (and everyone else) should not lay down because blacks don't get a fair shake in court yet. If gay people aren't allowed to buy goods because store owners disapprove of their life choices, they shouldn't shut up until blacks aren't beaten by cops in the streets. You act like everyone is in touch with each other and has the ability to not only focus everyone's attention on the issues on your subjective list of importance, but that if they did, any of it would be solved in a reasonable amount of time. What you're saying is fucking stupid and unrealistic.
Who is giving out these fucking bullhorns? What are you talking about? No one is controlling the outrage that results from the institution of discriminatory policies. Jesus fucking Christ.
I'm not going to repeat myself again.
Ah. Unforced errors. That's surely not an even dumber way of characterizing this shit.
This is your response? Let's break this down.
- There is a wrong that needs fixing
- Democrats pass a bill in the House to address it
- McConnell and Co. kill it
- Instead of holding McConnell responsible, you spend all your energy talking about how Democrats aren't doing anything right and how what they're doing isn't "strategic" because there isn't enough collective energy to care about the bill the Republican Party just killed and then you argue that Democrats might get support for a fix for rampant and deep societal and structural racist issues if only they'd focus on just that
This is your analysis? You can't possibly be this stupid.
We are not talking about the substance of political correctness. I was using an analogy. Holy shit.
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