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Old 07-03-2019, 03:20 AM   #2241
Tyrone Slothrop
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski View Post
I’m sure lots of undocumented have some means. But single payer isn’t ACA. So when you say we will give the undocumented HC, I don’t get how their funds matter. There is a big pool of jobs that do not collect or pay taxes. The employers are bad there, but undocumented do not pay taxes in many jobs (my kids worked jobs like that not hating on immigrants, but the jobs they have are likely mostly under radar).

Mix on top the current memes of gazillions of This people held at the border. Who do you think the average American sees as the ones getting the free HC? Bad optics the other night. Admit it.
I'm not arguing about the optics. (I don't think the optics are good, but I also don't think that the people who get exercised about this issue are going to vote for Democrats. Trump has done too much to make this issue central to conservatism, so trying to appease people on it just makes Democrats look weak. And it's also important for Democrats to motivate their base instead of just playing to potential swing voters.)

That aside, it is a simple fact that undocumented immigrants pay huge amounts in local, state and federal taxes. If you don't believe me, research for yourself. Sebby said their government healthcare would be "almost entirely subsidized." That implies they aren't paying taxes, and that's wrong. Moreover, the Democrats we are talking about want those immigrants to be more integrated in the legitimate economy and paying more taxes. So pretending that they want immigrants to get something for nothing is stupid.
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