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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I'm not arguing about the optics. (I don't think the optics are good, but I also don't think that the people who get exercised about this issue are going to vote for Democrats. Trump has done too much to make this issue central to conservatism, so trying to appease people on it just makes Democrats look weak. And it's also important for Democrats to motivate their base instead of just playing to potential swing voters.)
That aside, it is a simple fact that undocumented immigrants pay huge amounts in local, state and federal taxes. If you don't believe me, research for yourself. Sebby said their government healthcare would be "almost entirely subsidized." That implies they aren't paying taxes, and that's wrong. Moreover, the Democrats we are talking about want those immigrants to be more integrated in the legitimate economy and paying more taxes. So pretending that they want immigrants to get something for nothing is stupid.
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The optics may well motivate the 'winger base, and there are some swing voters who may be affected by it, which is part of why you see Trump doubling down on immigration these days. He's determined that he can make immigration in general into a winning issue literally by abusing kids, separating families, and demonizing large groups of people.
We have to change that. Broadly. Or we will just get another Trump after him.
