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Old 07-03-2019, 05:18 PM   #2257
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop View Post
If you pay taxes, then your government benefits are *not* entirely subsidized. You have bought into a conservative trope that immigrants are not members of our community and do not deserve to get anything, which is why it seems obvious to you that they would be almost entirely subsidized. Live where I do for a little while and you might see it differently. I see lots of immigrants, with different legal statuses, who are working and contributing and part of the community, and who are not "almost entirely subsidized." There's no sophistry here -- you and I apparently have different views about immigrants.
More bullshit.

Do you see me using the term “entirely”? That’s your latest strawman.

As to the rest of your quasi ad hominem, trying to change the argument from one where I explain to you that you are full of shit when you say that illegal immigrants in aggregate would not be heavily subsidized under any govt hc insurance plan for them to one about me drinking conservative kool aid is not going to save your ass here.

Why? Because math. $20 billion paid by 11 million undocumenteds. That’s around $2k a piece these people pay in state and fed taxes. That is not a demographic that can pay for any substantial amount of hc insurance. Your anecdotes describe outliers.

Stop.
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