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Originally Posted by Adder
You and Thurgreed keep thinking this is some sort of search for justice. It's not. He was caught being creepy at a time where that was hurting the party and would have kept hurting the party. He had to go.
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I think this is the major disconnect. To you, the
only question is a political one. On that front, you're probably right.
At that moment, it seemed the best decision was for him to bounce. And he did, gracefully.
However, you keep dismissing the other part of this, which I find amazing. How do we handle these things going forward? What is the right approach? What are the proper penalties given the behavior? Do we dig deeper on the allegations or is it enough for multiple women to make an accusation? Do we only behave based on political expediency? Why do we even have an investigative mechanism if the only question worth answering is whether it's good or bad for the party?
Two posters each accused me of awful behavior on this board. One (who will remain nameless and who very few people who remain here actually met, but who has been gone from this board for probably 15 years) got completely shit-faced and kissed me and then told a bunch of people I kissed her and how offended she was. The other (patentpara--we all know this story) said I hit on her and made her feel uncomfortable. Both accounts were complete and total fucking bullshit. Luckily, both times others saw what happened. If it were up to you, their accounts would be enough for you to kick me out of here.
I don't add this example as some weird way of explaining why my personal experience makes me think Franken was treated unfairly. I add it because this stuff is
hard. If the Democrats can't figure out how to handle the accusations fairly and thoughtfully in the fucking
Senate, where exactly will it work?
They needn't have dragged it out. And if the evidence was such that Franken deserved to be kicked the fuck out, doing it after actually
looking at the accusations and hearing from him, instead of fighting each other to get to the front of the line of the people who are trying to own #MeToo, would have set an example of how to deal with this shit as responsible adults.
TM
