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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
I've been watching Biden fuck up his elections for a long time. He's kind of like the Red Sox back before they actually won a World Series - always really great on paper, but you knew they were going to choke, and the only question was how. And every year they did.
Whatever you do, don't overestimate Joe Biden.
Yes, White people are going to be key. But there are a lot of white folks out there who were a lot happier to vote for Obama than they will be to vote for Biden. Because he was an exciting candidate.
I'm going to let the primary run its course, and closer in figure out who to vote for; I'm saving my resources for the general.
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Dude, you are comparing apples to oranges.
I do not disagree with you that historically, Biden has been largely "enh" as a Presidential candidate. But applying that analysis to
this election makes absolutely no sense. Fuck, "gaffs" no longer have the impact they once did. If he gets through the primary (and he will because no matter which other candidate has the loudest fans, the Democratic base is the Democratic base, as Bernie found out in 2016), he crushes Trump.
1. You skip over the fact that working class whites love him. He polls absolutely great with them.
2. Obama chose him for a reason. Yes, we all were energized by Obama who is a fantastic orator. But he put Biden on the ticket to help him with the exact demo that is so important this election.
3. Biden has been unbelievably successful in his state, so it's not like he isn't a successful politician.
4. He's got a great story (son who died) and the legitimacy of serving with and the support of Obama.
5. How can Biden, after he wins the nomination, be any worse of a candidate than Trump? I realize that the press will blow up his silly mistakes and ignore Trump's complete fucking insanity. But come on. You think that Biden putting his foot in his mouth will do worse than a black woman or a gay man with white Christian and/or blue collar voters in key states? Again, all "other" people are voting for their fucking
lives. Biden is still polling higher among blacks than any other Dem. Inspiring some dumbass Bernie voters who would have stayed home to pout isn't going to be the difference in this election.
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