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Old 08-12-2019, 04:44 PM   #2790
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Re: Doesn’t Matter Who Wins the K Race; We’re All the Same

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It depends.*

The example I'd give you is Antonio Delgado in NY 19, the district I grew up in.

I mean, the guy is Jewish. Hispanic. And Black. And he's a Harvard Law graduating Rhodes scholar. I will tell you I have heard plenty of anti-Semitic and racist slurs in that district. And plenty of anti-egghead sentiment as well. There are open bigots there who feel they can speak freely and expect their bigotry to be accepted by many of the people present. And, the district traditionally votes Republican.

But he won. Because he's a really good candidate, the kind of guy people want to talk with and are willing to listen to, and sufficiently down to earth so it formed a real contrast against the in-the-tank Republican he was running against.

He's going to have some tough sledding the next cycle or two, but I think he's capable of holding that seat long term.

To do this, Kamala has to not just be as good as the other candidates; she has to be significantly better. We'll see what she can do, but I'm not ruling her out.
Dude, I like Kamala. I'd rather have her than Biden. I'm not even arguing that she can't win.

But if you think she's Obama-level charismatic (and remember, he was all things to all people while basically admitting every time he was asked a question that he was center-left), you are delusional.

This election needs to be huge. If Kamala (or whoever) wins a squeaker, it won't matter how great her progressive ideas are. We need to win by huge margins just to undo the fuckery that Trump and McConnell have implemented. We need the Senate and the House and the Presidency. And we need as many votes in Congress as possible. If we win the Presidency and don't win the Senate, I suppose that's something. But it is not enough.

Biden isn't the most progressive person running, sure. But what difference does it make how progressive you are if you can't get anything even up for a fucking vote? Do you think Biden sits in office vetoing progressive legislation that a Dem House and Senate put on his desk? Do you think President Harris is ever presented with progressive legislation to sign if we don't have the Senate?

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