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Old 08-19-2019, 11:32 AM   #2881
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Re: Doesn’t Matter Who Wins the K Race; We’re All the Same

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He's not thoughtful. He's just pointing at everything he sees and crying "racism" or "misogyny." Diangelo might as well have not even written her book if one adopts Adder's positions. Why think about the issues in depth when you can just throw an accusation at every single chance you get?
Just because you disagree with his conclusions doesn't mean he isn't thoughtful. And you should know that he's right about race way more than you are.

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Why bother writing a book that actually had the capacity to change some of my views, and I think would change a whole lot of white people's views (I have already recommended it to conservative friends most in need of its message)? If you don't need to make the case and you can, as Adder does, just accuse racism in regard to everything anybody says on the grounds its omnipresent, why bother to read DIangelo's careful and persuasive text?
Did you take a look at the Times weekend section relating to race this past weekend? I haven't read it all yet, but they are taking a look at how slavery and racism has impacted every single aspect of American life. Are you saying they aren't "making a case" because they won't approach the topic in a way that speaks to white people in a way that makes them comfortable?

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...a-slavery.html

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Adder's a naif. He may be an ally, but not one I'd want.
Must be nice. I value all of our allies.

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