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Old 08-19-2019, 01:46 PM   #2896
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Re: Doesn’t Matter Who Wins the K Race; We’re All the Same

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Dude, this happens all the time. That's the point of the book. Whenever we talk about an experience, white people find a way to say that the person probably isn't racist.

A senior associate walked into my office today and told me that when he was in the Boston office, he was holding the door for a secretary. They had a friendly exchange and the secretary asked him if he was there to fix the printers. Now, in my mind, there is no way around the racism behind that question. But I guarantee if I tell that story to 80% of the people at this firm, they will find a way to not make it racist. We stop telling you this shit because you don't fucking hear us. We are too fragile. You seize on the term "micro" in "micro-aggressions," and dismiss it. You label it PC. You say, "Why is everything always about race with you?" Etc. That shit is exhausting. This is what the book is talking about. You don't need a handy fucking diary in the life of a black person. You need to listen and be open to understanding what we're saying.

And I'll tell you this: Adder is.

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I'm not arguing against micro-aggressions. I actually have adjusted my thinking on them. Diangelo made a solid case.

BUT, the fact that you are properly exhausted every time a white person denies racism does not mean:

1. Every critique of a foreign products is racist toward the country it came from; or,
2. Where racism is not present, the allegation of it should nevertheless stand without denial.

Adder said I was racist toward the Chinese. And so were the people who commented on Chinese products being built badly.

Untrue. I based none of my dislike for Chinese products on feelings toward Chinese people. I base my dislike on have had bad experiences with the products. Period.

Adder is throwing accusations and then hiding behind the argument, "If you disagree with me, you're proving fragility." Nonsense. I would totally agree with you that the instance you cited above regarding the copier repair is racist. However, the instance in which I said Chinese products are not well made? I assure you, it is not based on racism. Should I just stand quiet and let Adder spout off? Illogic is bad. It is always bad. And he's got it coming out of his ears here.

I am understanding as to what you are saying. That was my point. You are not Adder. Adder is making abstract points that are logically indefensible. You are making logical points dovetailing with the logic of Diangelo.

ETA: Under Adder's crazy extension, criticisms of Russia based on election interference, despite being valid, are also, strangely, racist toward Russians.
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