Quote:
Originally Posted by Adder
When we know a thing is ubiquitous, it is not a stretch to conclude that it is likely a factor commonly held beliefs.
Okay, back to a weird diversion that would probably only come from me: are you sure you've ever owned a Chinese-built appliance? Because unless you're buying Haier-branded appliances (or a few other even smaller brands), you're not.
As to whether it is possible to make that statement without any racist influence, yeah, probably.
You're doing the very thing described at length in the book but no, you're different.
Dude, if someone says, "hey, maybe that's racist" the thing to do is stop and think about it. After having done so, you might decide that your don't really think it is but maybe you'll find a different way to express the thought to avoid that impression. Or maybe you'll decide it's fine.
When you instead insist at length that it isn't and that the person who said it is attacking you, you're doing the White Fragility thing.
Nope. We white people need to be shouting about it a lot more.
|
1. Correlation and causation? Synonyms?
2. If a thing says made in China, I’m inclined to give it benefit of doubt. This is w/o considering how man components of things w/o that label were made there. As to comments of others cited? I can’t speak for them.
3. Then why immediately assert that you know the cause?
4. Here’s an abuse of Diangelo’s argument. By this illogic , you may assert racism is the cause (which you’ll walk back to “one of many possible causes” when cornered) and any disagreement is immediately invalidated. This where you and TM part ways. He’s arguing that it’s exhausting when white people try to find any cause but racism. You’re saying you are free to assert a cause of something and any disagreement with it is invalid. That’s absurd as applied to ANY subject.
5. You didn’t say “maybe.”
6. I did think about it. I thought, “Do I dislike the Chinese? Has some view of them made me xenophobic?” I realized no, it hadn’t. But I do admit that anger about their products caused me to overgeneralize. I should have excluded certain of their electronics along with some suits. Not all of their stuff is cheaply made.
7. I’m prone to view any illogical argument as an attack. It’s irritating. I don’t care what anyone says to or about me or any subject we’re discussing, but dumb and naive drive me nuts.
