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Old 10-17-2019, 02:10 PM   #3977
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Re: Doesn’t Matter Who Wins the K Race; We’re All the Same

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Ha ha! You're just so very precious with your post hoc rationalizations. Replying to what I was actually saying was just TOOO BOOOORRRRRING for you! So instead, you decided to deliver a lengthy unhinged rant replying to something I DIDN'T say? Brilliant.

O.K., let's go back to that post. "Stated otherwise, are you the kind of person who values most what others think of their abilities? Because that’s how you seem to measure 'smart'.” Um, what?!?? What gigantic gaping orifice of yours did you pull that out of? I said absolutely nothing about how I "measure smart" and, as you acknowledged, my post did not address the substance of that issue at all. Was this supposed to be some sort of Jedi mind trick?

You: You seem to measure smart by putting value on what others think of your abilities.
Me: I seem to measure smart by putting value on what others think of my abilities.
You: Your measurement betrays insecurity.
Me: My measurement betrays insecurity.
You: These are not the droids you are looking for . . . .

Or were you just having a disassociative episode, responding to the voices in your head? I'm having increasing concerns about your cognitive abilities. Because, once again, the "point" that you wanted to rebut was one that neither I nor anyone else here was making.

Or maybe you thought your unbelievably obvious little epiphany about how some people think it is more important to get votes or money than to be book smart was so fucking brilliant that you just needed another chance to say it again, as it were some Magical Gem of Wisdom. Which is fine, but that is not going to stop me from pointing out that, when you do that, you come off like some half-wit douchebag with a motivational social media page, peddling the most basic and obvious conclusions as if they were rare diamonds. The same type of people who have Instagram pages devoted to repeatedly preaching about how important #LOVE is, and how #BLESSED we are every day to fill our thoughts with #GRATITUDE.

Do better.
I am actually bored by you. I was being honest.

With that "smart" comment, I was citing the fact that I think you're on par with an Instagram influencer with a coke addiction.

I have a distant relative who sells silly self-help and coaching stuff to corporations. This person is on every form of social media. My mother showed me some of this person's work and we had a great laugh about the person. "How tacky," "how embarrassing," "why is em dressed like Steve Jobs in a green phase?"

Anyway, then it occurred to me. This person might be smarter than me. Via corporate slogans and associated gibberish, this person rakes in cash and travels the world.

I've since thought, "Fuck, this is like the 'If I had 10 divisions of those men...' speech given by Kurtz in Apocalypse Now (Hi, Ty!)."* I'm sitting here assuming I'm smart, when I've failed to realize the transactional nature of life.

You can make fun of an influencer, but given a lot of those influencers lead lives much better than yours, and many have reached a realization you and I never will because of our own concern with how others' would perceive us (among other reasons), can you or I judge them? Isn't it more accurate to say that we're pretty much on par with a gross guy selling self-help coaching, but we just don't realize it?

If I was forced to choose between being you or me, on one hand, or being some odious self-help personality on the other, what makes you think I'd choose you or me? Because we're "smart" enough to make fun of that snake oil salesman?

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* Obviously, on a much lighter level. I do not think this distant relative is capable of war crimes. But maybe? Who knows... I'm always surprised these days.
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