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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield
It's not inane at all. GGG raised Sarah Palin. She's a perfect example. I'd say she's pretty fucking dumb, because, well... I'd never want to talk to her.
But that's my opinion.
Supposed (and I highly doubt this, but play along) she realized she was badly spoken, not terribly bright, but had just enough intelligence to reach the conclusion, If I keep talking the way I talk and saying the things I say, unapologetically, I'll leap forward in my career, wouldn't she be "smart"?
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No. She'd be a person of moderate intelligence who used other gifts to be successful.
At what age did you start speaking English? So many of your posts seem to be lengthy explorations of notions that words should mean something other than what everyone else thinks they mean.
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Another example would something I experienced first hand. I tried a case a bunch of years ago against lawyer whose writing was awful, whose vocabulary was terrible, but who (surprise here) connected with juries in a way I simply cannot do. He beat me, like a gong. When we polled the jury, I was advised I looked like a bullshitter and tried to carve around issues, and I looked like someone who didn't believe his client (I didn't - my client was sleazy). The kid who whacked me connected with the jury, but he wasn't and never will be terribly smart in the way I'd measure a person to whom I was speaking socially. But in that room, who was smart? I think I was the dumb guy and he was pretty smart, even if he didn't know it.
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Maybe he had a certain kind of smarts, or maybe he had a way of connecting with juries that really worked for him in that context.
'Another example would be something else I experienced first hand. In college, I played intramural football. I got A's in all my classes, but I was a mediocre football player. A teammate of mine was admitted to the school only because his mother donated a new student center; he drooled and stared out the window in glass and only answered to "Hey, Stupidface." But he was 6'7" and built like a truck, and he was a monster on the football field. His LinkedIn profile says he graduated and got an MBA from Yale and is now the Ambassador to the Seychelles. He wasn't and never will be terribly smart in the way that other people are, but on that football field, was he smart?'
No, but it sounds like he played football well.
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If most things are becoming automated, and they are, and the value of what's traditionally considered "smart" is losing value, and it is, aren't we moving toward a world where "smart" and "effective" become synonyms, rather than opposed, as they have often been historically?
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Not if we are going to be speaking English.