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Old 11-06-2019, 11:19 AM   #4275
Tyrone Slothrop
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Re: Whistling down the alley

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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield View Post
I'd just put the quote in my previous post to which you were responding!

Here it is again:

PBS:
The whistleblower who raised concerns about President Donald Trump’s dealings with Ukraine spoke to staffers on the House Intelligence Committee before filing a formal complaint, giving Democrats advance warning of the accusations of wrongdoing that triggered their impeachment inquiry.
ME: If I give you advance warnings of accusations, it's highly likely - if not "inescapable" as you'd prefer - that I've told you what those accusations are. Or maybe I haven't. But again, this is evidence of possible coordination, or orchestration.

The above is exactly what I wrote, and you ignored.
I didn't ignore it Sebby, I actually asked you to be specific about what you were talking about because you just referred to a paragraph in an article. Asking you to clarify what you are talking about it is pretty much the opposite of ignoring you. What you've just quoted is not inconsistent with and says no more than The Washington Post article I quoted extensively, or any of several other articles about the same thing that have appeared in the month since this happened. The reported facts are set out in more detail in The Washington Post article and have not changed. They do not show that Schiff "orchestrated" anything. Again, The Washington Post:

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A spokesman for the House Intelligence Committee, Patrick Boland, said, “Like other whistleblowers have done before and since under Republican- and Democratic-controlled committees, the whistleblower contacted the committee for guidance on how to report possible wrongdoing within the jurisdiction of the intelligence community.”

At no point, Boland said, “did the committee review or receive the complaint in advance.”
The committee staffer who interacted with the intelligence officer was given only “the very bare contours” of the allegations, said a committee aide, speaking on the condition of anonymity because the aide was not authorized to speak for the record. As is common when such calls are received at the committee, the staffer advised the individual to seek legal counsel and file a complaint with the inspector general — either at the officer’s home agency or with the intelligence community inspector general.
Those are the known facts. Referring to them in a less specific way ("spoke to staffers") creates more ambiguity about what happened, but doesn't actually give you more to work with.

Schiff did not "orchestrate" anything. When you work so hard to insist that he did, you reveal your own biases and sympathies. The only people saying that are carrying water for the President. Why are you?
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