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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield
The transcript and depositions, from what I've seen, are bad. And even with the odds in Trump's favor, one never knows for certain how public sentiment might change between now and November 2020. (Read: We have a recession.)
If I'm an R operative, I think like Remy deciding to shoot Andy Stern at the end of Casino: "Why take a chance?" Pile up as many pretexts as one can, because you might need them.
It is insane to go into any proceeding without as many Plan B or concurrent defenses as one can employ. Schiff is one of those pretexts.
Your argument is effectively, "The Rs needn't sweat this, as the Senate is certain to acquit." I tend to agree the deck is heavily in Trump's favor there, and conviction a very long shot. But still... why not stack it even further, as much as you can? It's a hell of a ballsy strategy to put all of your chips on jury nullification, and those depositions, and that transcript, are really fucking "bad facts."
The Democrats would be in a better posture if they didn't have a target like Schiff out there. I suspect Pelosi is staying away from this as much as possible, and directing others with high profiles to do so, because she saw the deflection defenses coming miles away.
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Dude, there may actually be something seriously wrong with you--you really are susceptible to these ridiculous fucking arguments.
There is no there there with Schiff. The Republicans have absolutely nothing. This is the clearest case of abuse of office to extort a foreign power for personal political gain as can exist. If the whistle blower worked for an Administration that had any integrity at all, they would have brought the complaint through normal channels. Because they knew that this Administration is as corrupt as can be, they contacted a member of Congress to protect the integrity of the process. There is no evidence of any type of influence or coordination or nefarious anything. None. The fucking transcript confirms the whistle blowers take. Period. How the fuck could Schiff coordinate that? The pretext is stupid on its fucking face. There is only bullshit innuendo to be greedily eaten up by you and the Republican Party.
But this is what
you need to focus on because it's been said to you like a dozen fucking times already.
If it wasn't Schiff it would be someone else. If they couldn't get idiots like you to act like this is something, they'd pick something else. It. doesn't. fucking. matter what it is. Why do you think they want to out the whistle blower? So they can find a text he wrote 10 years ago supporting his local Democrat or so that they can say he was passed over for a promotion or whatever stupid shit they can find from absolutely anyone. They're just making it up. And here you are carrying their water like some version of Bobby Boucher come to life.
You're right that they want a pretext. The failure of your argument that you can't see is that you think whatever pretext they choose fucking matters to their cult members. I'm sure they'd love to have something better to point to. But they know it just doesn't fucking matter.
Gingrich: "What you are watching is a legislative coup d'état. They tried for two years to get rid of Donald Trump using the Russian deal, and when that collapsed on them, and they looked like they were stupid when Mueller reported, they had to find a new gimmick. This is the new gimmick."
Graham: "I've written the whole process off ... I think this is a bunch of B.S."
The Republican Party is a fucking cult. Nothing they say can be taken seriously at all. But here you are:
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