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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Dude, there may actually be something seriously wrong with you--you really are susceptible to these ridiculous fucking arguments.
There is no there there with Schiff. The Republicans have absolutely nothing. This is the clearest case of abuse of office to extort a foreign power for personal political gain as can exist. If the whistle blower worked for an Administration that had any integrity at all, they would have brought the complaint through normal channels. Because they knew that this Administration is as corrupt as can be, they contacted a member of Congress to protect the integrity of the process. There is no evidence of any type of influence or coordination or nefarious anything. None. The fucking transcript confirms the whistle blowers take. Period. How the fuck could Schiff coordinate that? The pretext is stupid on its fucking face. There is only bullshit innuendo to be greedily eaten up by you and the Republican Party.
But this is what you need to focus on because it's been said to you like a dozen fucking times already. If it wasn't Schiff it would be someone else. If they couldn't get idiots like you to act like this is something, they'd pick something else. It. doesn't. fucking. matter what it is. Why do you think they want to out the whistle blower? So they can find a text he wrote 10 years ago supporting his local Democrat or so that they can say he was passed over for a promotion or whatever stupid shit they can find from absolutely anyone. They're just making it up. And here you are carrying their water like some version of Bobby Boucher come to life.
You're right that they want a pretext. The failure of your argument that you can't see is that you think whatever pretext they choose fucking matters to their cult members. I'm sure they'd love to have something better to point to. But they know it just doesn't fucking matter.
Gingrich: "What you are watching is a legislative coup d'état. They tried for two years to get rid of Donald Trump using the Russian deal, and when that collapsed on them, and they looked like they were stupid when Mueller reported, they had to find a new gimmick. This is the new gimmick."
Graham: "I've written the whole process off ... I think this is a bunch of B.S."
The Republican Party is a fucking cult. Nothing they say can be taken seriously at all. But here you are:
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Are you and Ty impaired? I'm not carrying anyone's water. I'm telling you I think they:
1. Need a decent pretext (I think you're wrong that they can just "say anything");
2. Schiff is the best pretext they have.
Our disagreement comes down to you concluding that a pretext is not necessary. Or that any one will do. I'm not so sure. I'd want a few, and from what I see, Schiff is the best of those available. And while there may be no there there, there is enough of a hint of there there to say there's a there there, and that's all you need.
So drive this through the cement between your ears: I am not saying Schiff coordinated. I am saying I could make that argument effectively, regardless of its truth. I don't know how or why this escapes you. But I suspect it's because you want to be able to argue that I'm buying the GOP talking points on Schiff. I'm not. I'm telling you, however, that they are necessary because Trump needs a deflection, and they are effective. We agree on the latter, not on the former. Strangely, that means you think the "cult" of the GOP will acquit more easily than I do.
